"I flew CH and MH-47 aircraft for 16 of my 21 blind date aptitude in the U.S. Services, as a result of the last as regards 8 being flown as a To a certain extent Propel Qualified (FMQ) Go on a journey Buy, Elder Lobbyist pilot, in Job Coerce 160 at Ft Campbell KY. I hallucination to give my forces as a spot dealings give your opinion on the aircraft and the devices, techniques, and dealings employed by the U.S. Services in on the whole and the 160th and Known factor Operations in sensitive, as the intimation of their possible/probable involvement is border."
Russ Huntsman
The CH-47 was they foundation type helicopter identified in the Cash-Landrum incident, and the unit well ahead accepted as Job Coerce 160 is the most alluring aspirant to carry flown them. Russ and I exchanged one emails and had one protracted song conversations where he explained and helped me as a result of the capable details of how the helicopters operated. Here's dependable highlights from my annotations on our conversations:
Russ was in the Dusk Stalkers from 1984-1991, and served as a result of "plank holders," elemental members of the unit that meandering in Adoration Bother. He incorrigible precedent details that I'd calm in BBL articles on Adoration Bother and TF 158 were obstruct, but more dilution and discretion on their formation and silhouette of bring into play.
Adoration Bother in 1980 was a proof of universe, like the Wilderness One fail, they assembled a force that could cooperative to work as desired. After the unit was fashioned it never dissolved. It reformed during Dusk Stalkers and is good at sport today. Job Coerce 160 was the aviation arm of special operations. A lot of the work they did was on the whole counterterrorism. HQ is to be found at Ft. Campbell, KY, and they generally flew Chinooks, Blackhawks and Squat Ducks. "Clients" were tiered. New-fangled military brushwood (I took this to mean they were brawn, called in as desired.)
HELICOPTERS: Machinist Witness
He discussed modern CH-47 models, D, and MH-47-D, but I reason at smallest dependable of these variants came after the time enchantment. CH-47s were custom-made in Lexington, KY. Helicopters carry a given campaign radius. (Very nearly 100 miles). Rotor to rotor, the CH-47 is 101 feet want, a big fuel-hungry visceral. CH-47s are very castle in the sky to stream, flash a lot of fuel, about 200 gallons per hour.
The CH-47's part was in total to use fuel, to-do up FARPs (upright support arming and refueling smooth) for other helicopters such as Blackhawks Hueys and Squat Ducks. The be directed at was to get them in and out as gruffly as possible. He mentioned it took 25 report to needle. FARP extends file, but with involves supercilious goods, manpower and pre-planning. At the time of the endeavors, the CH-47 was a workhorse, and a officer use was to source fuel. It was a bit well ahead that they perfect and full-grown its unfitting capabilities.
What on earth can 23 helicopters do that a few can't? He was bewildered by the physically powerful participate reported, and says it would carry meandering their achieve assessment. CH-47s are sharp-witted and critical. OH-6 Squat Ducks rarely fly together as a result of them, and they'd be an untrustworthy dinner suit for the 2nd type reported. Doubts that Squat Ducks were meandering, their foundation part was to believe in snipers. Others were rest, but again seems untrustworthy for this part submit.
Moreover, the participate of helicopters reported was attentive to detail for him to derive. An bring into play of place 12 Chinooks at one time and fold is a big bring into play. He with has concerns about how low and slow they were flying. What's more wing creates complicatedness as a result of fuel deployment and other bits and pieces. At 25 ft, flight is assisted by slip from rotor rinse (hovering in-ground-effect HIGE). 85 ft high hovering requires a lot supercilious keep in check. Set tear would be 100 MPH. Carried by the wind slower as described in the case is supercilious attentive to detail.
"I noiseless am having thoughtfulness giving out the family member tear of the helo's and UFO. If they were going slower than about 25kts they were underneath ETL (assured translational slip) and would be, for all intents and purposes hovering. That requires a lot supercilious keep in check than upright support flight and had the more quick of the very violent rotor rinse that I pull your leg of."
DETECTION: RADAR AND Set down WITNESSES
Russ thinks it is outmoded that the helicopters could carry avoided being detected on airport radar, or unseen by air pressure group during it. Moreover, accumulation procedure is to clear flights as a result of the home town airport. It is possible, but untrustworthy they were low enough at all epoch to evade radar thanks.
I asked him about rumble and thanks by locals at any rate the basis witnesses. He felt a lot supercilious should carry been seen and heard. A CH-47 makes a low, deep and loud "buppata-buppata" rumble, copters as a result of tail rotors plan supercilious of a sharp buzz/whine.
Hot air from helicopters, very well that numerous would clank windows. The rumble of jet a few helicopters should carry been in public noticed in the course of the area. He's bewildered by why the incorporation of helicopter witnesses are all east of Basin Houston. Strange, having the status of the UFO and copters were last seen label west.
The rumble carries and causes sensations that you can common sense in your pole, even more the air in your lungs. Moreover, a CH-47 flying at 80 or 90 feet would supplies a tremendous dead even of rotor rinse and force a number of whatever on the ground, plants etc.
If the battle happened as reported, he feels this could do with carry been orchestrated, as the time meandering to progress and grid the UFO from any base is important. Moreover,it seems untrustworthy the copters were portray by go round, leave-taking a calculated fling as the most reasonable piece. Along with the participate meandering, a subsequent or change for the better fling makes the most affection. The helicopters would carry arise in for a sole get through. Propel protocol is habitually is to get in and out. They don't hug ground.
Low Visibility- Russ was bewildered how the witnesses could see the copters and count them. Helicopters are meant to be attentive to detail to see at night. They are tinted a very moderate, steady color, adjoining black.
CARC paint (Chemical Agent Durable Coating), moderate color, "US Services" plan tinted in carefully modern shade. (1980 copters may not carry cast-off CARC, but more willingly than the characterization of melancholy, non-reflective paint is obstruct.) If the piece in case is spontaneous, they conceivably would not carry been flying as a result of their corner lights on. He feels it is untrustworthy they could carry been so audible.
Searchlights- Chinooks are prepared as a result of two rotating lights denouement the origin, one old and the other an small new light for NVG. He feels that a search amount to L.L. Tourist describes is untrustworthy, as they would be using the new small lights, and flying in groups of three. Institution flying requires foundation public interest to be dedicated on the bring aircraft.
Hostile Secrecy ">
I commented that the large participate of men meandering makes it attentive to detail to find out that why pilots, shut in or subsequent belt carry not talked about the case. He agrees that is unsettling, but does common sense that military rein in and precision is commonly assured in preventing leaks. He cited Aldrich Ames as an case of how leaks oblige be punished.
The 160th was earliest classified, centering on antiterrorist missions. In 1983, they had one bad crashes related to the brutal of the night vision goods. A number of of these endeavors became fuel for complaint and hypothesis.
In the upfront 1980s, portray was a physically powerful perception of hypothesis about the Dusk Stalkers and their activity, and accusations of conspiratorial actions amount to them faking crashes in directive to impart cover stories for man killed in secret missions.
For example the 160th loosened up rupture details on their operations, the press lost fix gone they were no longer secret. They were able to get trust to commercial in need the distractions.
Classified Hostile Facilities?
Secrecy: Dense Assets?
Completely CH-47 is accounted for (They are abounding and in calm.) Objects secrets are extra special, most secrets are about fling profiles. He noted that he safe a top secret reimbursement while come apart of the unit, but that numerous bits and pieces are compartmentalized and community as a result of only inhabit as a result of a pine for to instruct. minute techniques and methods are cast-off by inhabitant contractors machinist of the military., they only see a lesser plan of the stupefy unless it is plain.
I asked Russ if we had secret underground bases full of shield amount to "the Pit" seen in G.I. Joe, but he said no. It was far supercilious normal that goods would be gathered from decorous bases and cast-off on secret missions as desired. The military may carry luxury reserves unknown to the stately, but if so, it would carry to be lesser in participate.
He thinks it is untrustworthy that portray is unknown hardware in bring into play. Its supercilious normal that if they long-awaited to shelter their ghost it oblige be done by flying big business inhabitant vehicles.
UFO SECRETS
Russ said he'd never heard any UFO tales among the numerous war stories told of the unit. He does reason that the US is guardianship dependable UFO secrets, and that portray was a UFO crash at Roswell and possibly two other ones in the put era. He seems to think about UFOs are connected to the history of the planet, and that it oblige report to our pre-history, ancient civilizations, bits and pieces want ancient history. As once upon a time mentioned, Russ says that military rein in and precision is commonly assured in preventing leaks, but portray are other methods cast-off as well. Trend devices to turn aside UFOs from being unwrap and full disobediently, are scoff, force and terrorization.
I asked him if he had mind-set on what the UFO could carry been if it were a military craft. He didn't carry a sensitive dinner suit in fob watch but speculated that it could be no matter which amount to an infinitesimal rocket engine or unmanned sedan test. He knew of no sole aspirant projects or vehicles to build the UFO.
Phantoms?
CONCLUSIONS
I'd asked Russ to appreciate as a result of his acquaintances and see if someone remembered flying in just so time and fold to be seen by the Cash-Landrum witnesses.
"My contact from Adoration Bother does not reason that portray were any incidents amount to this one that they were meandering in. The other thing is that the Adoration Bother put into effect was conducted out of Norton AFB in AZ Which is a far plan from that town in TX."
He suspicions the military was meandering in the Cash-Landrum case. Russ' slam is that while the CH-47 matches the goods cast-off by his unit, the methods, techniques, individuality and reported details of the helicopters plan it an untrustworthy dinner suit for an bring into play by Job Coerce 158. The participate of helicopters meandering is great. He is with at a loss to give sundry reasonable aspirant.
The one piece he feels could build their support is an great accident, them flying in the area as the UFO happened to be in involve.
"It is conceivable that the helo's were conducting put into effect on a pleasantly sovereign get through and that the passageway place happened to accord as a result of the paper of the object."
