A Tale Of Two Offices

Dayton, Ohio must have been a very weird place to be in the late 1940s, especially if you worked for the U.S. Air Force and were stationed at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. I say this because over the past few days I have been reading two very different accounts of UFO research activities at Wright-Patterson, and the contrasts are beyond bizarre...

Why would UFO research be done at all at a base in Dayton, Ohio, you might ask. It seems strange, but Wright-Patterson has always been associated with advanced aircraft testing, and so every time the Air Force gets its hands on a crashed UFO they bundle it up and ship it off to Dayton, where it will officially baffle and confuse our best and brightest aeronautical engineers. Which means that anyone hoping to find a salvaged UFO at Area 51 is going to be disappointed. They're all in Ohio! Ditto on the alien corpses.

Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, where the U.S. government probably maybe keeps its UFOs and aliens.

You would think that that would make Wright-Patterson a pretty cool place to be between 1948 and 1952, and you would be right. But, it was only cool for certain people working in certain offices.

Take the experience of June Crain, in whom who I have now taken a special interest. This woman worked as a secretary/office manager for several offices at Wright-Patterson between 1942 and 1952. For the last few years of her employment, she worked for Air Materiel Command, and had earned a SECRET Q security clearance, which could mean that she was cleared to know about anything starting with the letter Q, or could mean something different entirely. The point is, once a person goes beyond Super Triple Top Secret, as June Crain did, the security nomenclature starts to make very little sense at all.

Be that as it may, everyone at Wright-Patt with a SECRET Q security clearance knew everybody "else "at Wright-Patt with a SECRET Q security clearance, and since they couldn't talk about their work with anyone "without "a SECRET Q security clearance they all spent a lot of time talking with each other about SECRET Q-y-type things going on at the base. As it happened, a lot of those SECRET Q-y-type things had to do with crashed UFOs and alien corpses being delivered to the Air Material Commend offices, where Ms. Crain would have to sign for the deliveries and make sure all the corpses were accounted for. Actually, that's not true, but because of her security clearance, the people who really did handle UFO wreckage and alien corpses spoke freely in front of her and even to her about the strange things in the basement... and her testimony, given many years later to UFO researcher James Clarkson, rings true.

Which makes it all the more ironic that at the exact same time, at the exact same Air Force Base, the dedicated staff of Project Sign (which begat Project Grudge, which in turn begat Project Blue Book) were working night and day to convince the American public that there were no such things as flying saucers and aliens from space.

The chapters in J. Allen Hynek's book "The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry" in which he describes his role in the Air Force's official UFO research group paint a picture of an understaffed, unmotivated, directionless team of low-ranking officers and functionaries who couldn't be bothered to do even the most rudimentary investigative work, and always came the same predetermined dismissal of every UFO sighting case that they looked at.

Did the two offices know of each others' existence? In one office, you have SECRET Q June Crain hearing about nighttime deliveries of alien corpses and being given glimpses of strange alien metal, and in another office, perhaps right down the hall, you've got low-ranking Air Force officers with YOU ARE NOT CLEARED FOR SHIT security clearance blithely telling the American public that every UFO report they read about in the papers was just some yokel who either misidentified the planet Venus or should be in a straitjacket at the local asylum, or both.

Somehow, it is all too easy to believe that the two offices had no clue the other existed...

Reference: faces-on-mars.blogspot.com

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Begin Wright Patterson AFB : What's Going On There?

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Atit Reheated Freedom Of Information Act Requests On Aliens And Ufos From The Air Forcproject Bluebook

BY JACK BRUMMET, PARANORMAL AND UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENA EDITORIN 1969, THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE CLOSED DOWN its research into unidentified flying objects (Code named Project Bluebook). The National Archives now handles the Freedom of Information Act requests that come from UFOlogists. The National Archives has a standard line for the many requests they receive for information related to the Roswell UFO crash: "The National Archives has been unable to locate any documentation among the Project BLUE BOOK records which discuss the 1947 incident in Roswell, New Mexico."THE OFFICIAL LINE IS THAT THE AIR FORCE RESEARCH did not locate or at least disclose any information that the "Roswell Incident," as they like to call it, was a UFO event nor was there any indication of a "cover-up" by the Government. Information obtained through exhaustive records searches and interviews indicated that the materials recovered near Roswell was consistent with a balloon devise of the type used in a then classified project. No records indicated or even hinted that the recovery of "alien" bodies or extraterrestrial materials. THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES HAS LITTLE TO OFFER UFO researchers other than official reports, a few documents, and the studies by the University of Colorado that led to the abandonment of the Bluebook project. Since the FOIA became law, researchers have prodded and poked, and come up with bupkus. The following documents show a researcher trying to get William S. Sessions, director of the FBI, to dig a little deeper. The researchers well-realized--as the letters show--that they surmise that anything of real substance about Roswell, UFOs, or Aliens probably never actually got to Project Bluebook, and instead went to other government agencies that have managed to keep any substantial information out of the public eye.THE FOLLOWING US AIR FORCE FACT SHEET was distributed by Wright-Patterson AFB in January 1985.UNITED STATES AIR FORCEPUBLIC AFFAIRS DIVISION,WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB,OHIO 45433"UFOS " a review of the University of Colorado's report by the National Academy of Sciences; past UFO studies and Air Force experience investigating UFO reports during the 40s, '50s, and '60s.""As a result of these investigations and studies and experience gained from investigating UFO reports since 1948, the conclusions of Project BLUE BOOK are:(1) no UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the Air Force has ever given any indication of threat to our national security;(2) there has been no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represent technological developments or principles beyond the range of present-day scientific knowledge; and(3) there has been no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" are extraterrestrial vehicles.""With the termination of Project BLUE BOOK, the Air Force regulations establishing and controlling the program for investigating and analyzing UFOs were rescinded. Documentation regarding the former BLUE BOOK investigation has been permanently transferred to the Military Reference Branch, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, DC 20408, and is available for public review and analysis.""Since Project BLUE BOOK was closed, nothing has happened to indicate that the Air Force ought to resume investigating UFOS. Because of the considerable cost to the Air Force in the past, and the tight funding of Air Force needs today, there is no likelihood the Air Force will become involved with UFO investigation again.""There are a number of universities and professional scientific organizations, such as the American Association for the Advancement of Science, which have considered UFO phenomena during periodic meetings and seminars. In addition, a list of private organizations interested in aerial phenomena my be found in Gayle's Encyclopedia of Associations (edition 8, vol-. 1, pp. 432-433). Such timely review of the situation by private groups ensures that sound evidence will not be overlooked by the scientific community.""A person calling the base to report a UFO is advised to contact a private or professional organization (as mentioned above) or to contact a local law enforcement agency if the caller feels his or public safety is endangered.""Periodically, it is erroneously stated that the remains of extraterrestrial visitors are or have been stored at Wright-Patterson AFB. There are not now nor ever have been, any extraterrestrial visitors or equipment on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base."
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